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DavidBotterill

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Depth Sounder through hull fitting BR17
« on: 02 Jun 2023, 21:39 »
I'd like to fit a NASA Pilot Depth Sounder but where best might I locate the 'through the hull transducer'? Any suggestions and experiences to share very welcome as there doesn't seem to be an obvious location?
Its a shame the in-hull transducer will only work on GRP hills. Can some explain why?
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Julian Merson

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Re: Depth Sounder through hull fitting BR17
« Reply #1 on: 03 Jun 2023, 01:38 »
I have a NASA clipper depth sounder with an in-hull depth sounder on my BC20 - which is not GRP.  Works fine.  The idea of drilling holes in the hull seems alarmingly excessive for such a device.
Mine was temporarily attached to the hull with blutack in a starboard under-seat storage cavity - that was over 2 years ago, and it’s still working well…
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Re: Depth Sounder through hull fitting BR17
« Reply #2 on: 07 Jun 2023, 10:11 »
Beware fitting cheap plastic transducers thru "wood" hulls. I believe both NASA and Airmar (specialist US based manufacturer of sensor heads, supplying much of the world's  sounder manufacturers) specifically warn against this, due to movement in the wood and its potential  to cause leaks or worse, crack transducers. They propose a fancy bronze hull fitting (VERY expensive, and probably heavy?)
But then, not sure they mean epoxy ply wood? Perhaps JMs experience reflects this?

I know NASA clipper struggles a bit with placement thru hull in a BRe, mine was very much trial and error and then is still not ideal.
On my Baycruiser, it's  worse. The NASA thru hull fails completely  to penetrate in areas of Divinycell foam laminate, and only just (and very unreiably) works thru the solid grp areas of the hull.
Googling gives good info from Airmar which says laminates and voids within ply or glass hulls will cause thru hull problems.

My fancy Raymarine plotter/sounder/sonar screen unit having failed, I'd planned to use the NASA as a cheap/temporary sub. To no avail. It's just too unreliable, as fitted to my BC 26.
 I've had to fit a Raymarine sounder, but at least with a new sensor I could reuse the existing thru hull. Set up was over twice the price of NASA, and smaller display. As a plus, it gives me water speed and temperature from the triducer head, and it can be removed for cleaning whilst afloat.
Consequently, if you are feeling brave, I have an Airmar spare plastic  thru hull fitting potentially going cheap (triducer assy was £180) if you fancy trying that?

However, BR20s seem to be able to mount sounder heads up inside the forefoot of the board case, and that apparently gives good results. I didn't  discover this until after fitting my NASA internally.
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Re: Depth Sounder through hull fitting BR17
« Reply #3 on: 07 Jun 2023, 11:42 »
However, BR20s seem to be able to mount sounder heads up inside the forefoot of the board case, and that apparently gives good results. I didn't  discover this until after fitting my NASA internally.

Here’s a photo of my Garmin “transom mount” transducer, installed on my BR20 just ahead of the centreboard pivot.  Some transducers are too long to fit there.  I don’t know if there’s space to do the same with a BR17.
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