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Swallow Yachts Forum => Home Builders' Area => Topic started by: Dave Hanlon on 28 Mar 2006, 13:04
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Dave is building his Storm 17 in the Netherlands.
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Looking good!
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Matt,
We've made a lot more progress since the last posting. The stem and stern posts are fitted along wih the keel. The centreboard case is constructed and the centreboard laminated and lead filled. The rudder is lamianted and shaped. This weekend we turned her back over and fitted and glued the outer gunnels. The seat sides are scarfed and glued up and will hopefuly be fitted next weekend.
Shes loking realy sweet with the gunnels in place! I'll post some additional photos when I get time.
Dave
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Busy weekend behind us. Lots more progress, the interior fit out is well underway.
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Another busy weekend behind us. The weather has taken a trun for the better and the mental image of her on the water has just got more vivid. Due to running out of filler we had dry fit a lot of the internal structure last weekend. Now after a momoth glueing up session she hasn't changed much in appearance but shes mor difficult to take appart. Most of the port side structure is now glued up including inwales, seat tops and hatch front. We're heading full steam for the decks and CB case.
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Looks great!
Nico
Almere (NL)
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another couple of photos. I'd be very keen to see detail shots of other boats in build. It would help me decide how to finish things like the gunwales and stem/stern posts.
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Its a long time since my last update.
We didn't originaly plan to but we decided to take a holiday. whilst a month in canada has its compensations it has meant we wont have the boat ready this season. All in all its probably for the best since Im no longer tempted to rush this last all-important step.
We also decided to bright finish the exposed wood. Rushing is not an option. All the interior has been given two coats of epoxy to start off with. Im also priming and undercoating all ply surfaces. So far the decks are finished (Epifanes boat enamel white) and the port side interior has been finished (here Ive used a half gloss exterior alkyd paint-the closest I could find to Swallow boats favoured Sandolin paint in Holland). The kingplank, well coamings and gunwales have all had a few coats of two componant PU (De IJssel double coat).
ITS GOING SLOWLY! Pretty fed up of sanding the same bits over and over. Sure Im sending more paint into the dustbag than Im leaving on the boat. My painting technique clearly needs to improve befre I get to the hull (stripes with the brush and orange peel with the roller. But she's beginning to look quite good.
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Put another few hours in this weekend. Progress is slow! More paint and more sanding. Most of the interior is now at least primed. I can't reach the floor so will finish off when she's turned over to finish the hull. The port side is more or less complete from the seat top upwards. Decided after long deliberation not to use antifouling. My intention is to coat all below the waterline with epoxy/graphite mixture and to regularly scrub her clean. I made a start with the rudder and board. Both have had two coats of epoxy followed by three epoxy/graphite.
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After a long period of radio silence at last an update:
A wilderness canoeing trip in Canada, an attic conversion and a baby room got in the way of progress for a while but now there's progress to report. All the bits and pieces (seat slats, centerboard top etc) have been finished (varnish/oil). The topstreek and hull to the water line have been faired (at least until my patience ran out)and have received a couple of coats of topcoat (Epifanes two pot, black for the hull and for the topstrake started with red but switched to burgundy-see photos). Everything within reach in the cockpit has been finished and everything almost out of reach (seat sides and floors) primed. At the next opportunity I intend to fit the centreboard (now finished with epoxy-graphite) and then, the worst job of all, cut the outboard well hole (gulp!). Then, bribed with beer, I hope my friends will help me turn her over to mount the fins and to finish the hull. While she's on her head I also intent to apply the last coat to the decks and coamings and to get to finish the places otherwise too awkward to reach at the moment. Still quite some work but the end is in sight. I had aimed for her to go to water in April but a new baby will almost certainly get in the way. We will however, certainly enjoy her this season.
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Some more progress been made between finishing baby room and shopping for prams. A few more coats of paint but most importantly the oudboard well hole is cut! Worst job imaginable. Lots of hesitation . However, now its done. Have chosen an electric outboard from Torqueedo in Germany, the Travel 800. Wonderfully simple, compact, well designed unit. Yet to see how it performs of course but for day-to-day runabouting in the canal network close to home it will be just fine. No noise no stink! Yet to see if it will get me to and from the nearest open water comfortably on a single charge (two charges in fact since I bought a spare battery). According to the blurb it should do but there's often a large hole between theory and practice.
The motor fits very well. I think the prop is well positioned. However, can't get her to tip up without fouling the rudder (the bracket places the shaft rather a long way aft of the well bulkhead). Unfortunately I think this means the motor will have to be brought inboard before sailing! Can't have everything I suppose.
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Some more progress been made between finishing baby room and shopping for prams. A few more coats of paint but most importantly the oudboard well hole is cut! Worst job imaginable. Lots of hesitation . However, now its done. Have chosen an electric outboard from Torqueedo in Germany, the Travel 800. Wonderfully simple, compact, well designed unit. Yet to see how it performs of course but for day-to-day runabouting in the canal network close to home it will be just fine. No noise no stink! Yet to see if it will get me to and from the nearest open water comfortably on a single charge (two charges in fact since I bought a spare battery). According to the blurb it should do but there's often a large hole between theory and practice.
The motor fits very well. I think the prop is well positioned. However, can't get her to tip up without fouling the rudder (the bracket places the shaft rather a long way aft of the well bulkhead). Unfortunately I think this means the motor will have to be brought inboard before sailing! Can't have everything I suppose.
Dave,
Would be very interested in your experience with Torquedo Motor. Saw one at London Boat Show and was impressed.
With regard to fouling the rudder, we found that even with the "standard" 2.3hp Honda, which as outboards go is a really nice little motor, you have to twist and turn in a particular way to avoid the rudder, so that the shaft is pointing well off centre before lifting the motor. If you can't solve that problem I think it's probably a no-no, because of the hassle of having the motor "loose" in the cockpit, and being able to get a quick burst of power when needed, (like avoiding the Sandbanks Chain Ferry!)
We tend to use the motor now only for max 30 mins at a time worst case to go upriver to Wareham, because the Storm 17 is so manouvrable, particularly with the self tacking, so I don't reckon range would be an issue.
Good luck with the rest of the build.
Richard
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Hi Dave!
very interesting and beautiful boat. I am building a venetian classic boat that is similar in size and a bit more heavy than storm 17.
I looked at torqueedo 800 motor too. I would use it with two batteries (75+75 ah).
I am very interested in knowing how do you feel with that outboard. Does it work well? is it noisy? (some people imply it is) Are the manufacturer specificities confirmed?I will use in saltwater as probably you do: Any problem?
Best
:)
bepi
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Richard/Giussepe
Thanks for your comments and interest. I will happily share my experience of the torqueedo motor with you as and when I gain it. Forever the optimist I intend to put the hull to water this month (the masts and spars will come later) so I'll hopefully have something to tell you. A couple of comments for now:
Richard, We now sail mainly on inlands lakes close to home. The club boats we use have no motors so we are used to sailing without power. We intend to use the motor primarily for motoringg too and from said waters. The fact that the model we have chosen folds up and stored in a dry bag means that we can stow it in one of the fwd lockers in teh S17. I'd much prefer not to have to, but I'm sure we can live with having to dissmount the motor before sailng, the worst we'll suffer is inconvenience.
Giussepe: The Travel models have integral batteries so we won't need seperate accumulators. This comes at the expense of power and duration but the weight is much lower and the foldabilty is a nice feature for storage and stowing. We've purchased spare batteries in order to increase the range. I can't comment on the noise, it mmay be that the bigger motors are noisier but I have no experience of those. Our model makes very little noise run dry and I suspect will make even less when used in anger since all moving parts are submerged. We don't intend to use our boat on salt water, we sail and motor almost exclusively on fresh water canals and lakes. Even the larger water here (such as the Markermeer and IJselmeer, are fresh water. I'd love to see some pictures of your boat!
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Dave
Great job, excellent looking details. Very beautiful finish.
Please post your experience with the Torqueedo when you get a minute, looks like many are interested.
Many thanks for taking the time to post your photos.
Richard