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Title: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Peter Cockerton on 13 Jul 2012, 22:43
Recently installed the tiller tamer so when sailing single handed i can perform the usual tasks on the mast etc. When i have experienced the problems i' sailing with jib,main and mizzen with no reefs. Boat trimmed to a point where i have slight weather helm.
I lock the tamer up, move forward and with a short space of time the boat luffs up into the wind. I have tried bearing away from my course then locking the tamer with the expectation she will luff up but perhaps point on the course i originally wanted but that doesn't work either. I know i'm 15 stone and moving my weight forward will upset the COE but can i do anything about this so i can work on the mast for a few minutes.
Any advice most welcome

Peter
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Llafurio on 14 Jul 2012, 08:18
Quote from: Peter Cockerton on 13 Jul 2012, 22:43
... I lock the tamer up, move forward and with a short space of time the boat luffs up into the wind. I have tried bearing away from my course then locking the tamer with the expectation she will luff up but perhaps point on the course i originally wanted but that doesn't work either. ... can i do anything about this so i can work on the mast for a few minutes. ...

The centreboard is the key to that. Bring up the centreboard to 20 - 30% while you work (board all up being 0%).
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Peter Cockerton on 14 Jul 2012, 10:55
Quote from: Llafurio on 14 Jul 2012, 08:18
Quote from: Peter Cockerton on 13 Jul 2012, 22:43
... I lock the tamer up, move forward and with a short space of time the boat luffs up into the wind. I have tried bearing away from my course then locking the tamer with the expectation she will luff up but perhaps point on the course i originally wanted but that doesn't work either. ... can i do anything about this so i can work on the mast for a few minutes. ...

The centreboard is the key to that. Bring up the centreboard to 20 - 30% while you work (board all up being 0%).

Many thanks for that tip Claus it was getting to be a bit of a game to get her balanced and then moving forward doing what i needed to do quickly and the rushing back to the tiller before she ran amok.

Peter
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Simon Knight on 17 Jul 2012, 19:53
Hi Peter,

You may also find that you can steer the boat by heeling her with your body weight; my Drascombe Coaster was very easy to steer like this but she had very hard chines so she steered by "dropping a rail".  I've not had  a chance to see how my Bay Raider performs yet.

best wishes

Simon
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Rob Johnstone on 22 Sep 2012, 09:13
In smooth water, I can set up Vagabond (BC23) on a reach (with the centre board fully down) and then change course by moving my weight forward or backward. As soon as the wave height becomes more than a foot or so, the directional stability is less marked
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Colin Morley on 23 Sep 2012, 21:03
This is interesting. I have been wondering about a tiller tamer. At the moment i use an adjustable piece of rope, adjusted with sliders like guy rope sliders, from each side. which works quite well.

My question is does anybody have experience with an auto helm on the BR?
Title: Re: Boat Trim and Tiller Tamers
Post by: Graham W on 29 Nov 2012, 18:19
I have added an article on 'Tiller tamers' to the library.