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For Sale and Wanted / 2019 BRE Aneela for sale
« Last Post by tuareg on 21 May 2024, 19:55 »
Aneela (child of the wind) is a lightly used BRE with good inventory and in fabulous condition for sail with high performance rig, unused asymmetric spinnaker and trailer. Lying Topsham, Devon on her trailer.
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I have recently put Lapwing up for sale.  She was on Ullswater 2016-2019 and little used by my father in that time.  I moved her to Abersoch in 2019 (the Llyn is a lovely area to sail and explore). She remains in excellent condition and has only had light summer use.  She is currently lying in a yard with a Broker in Pwllheli and I am keen to get her sold  (asking price is £18950). 

If interested please contact me via this forum or organise viewing directly with the Broker (Partington Marine in Pwllheli) Here is the link...

https://www.theyachtmarket.com/en/boats-for-sale/swallow-yachts/bayraider-20/id2648051/
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General Discussion / Re: Drying moorings
« Last Post by trailing by on 21 May 2024, 14:48 »
Thank you Sea Simon...now also confirmed by Lara that it'll be fine.  I wanted to check just incase.  Our plan is for a mooring initially and then, once we're used to sailing, to look at trailing elsewhere. 
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General Discussion / Re: Favourite Sailing Books
« Last Post by MistySkye on 20 May 2024, 22:35 »
Twelve Ships A Sailing by Jim Andrews excellent writer covers 35 years of home water cruising well recommended
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General Discussion / Re: Drying moorings
« Last Post by Sea Simon on 20 May 2024, 22:25 »
I posted some info about this topic, but about the BRe, rather than the BC 23. My BRe was fine,  once I'd sorted the mooring attachments. The foredeck area is relatively  "soft", but the side deck cleats will allow secure mooring to a bridle. I think the BC 23 has the advantage of a stout Sampson post on the foredeck?

Mine was copper coated. Worked well.

I think much info/experience probably is transferable BRe > BC23?

Imho... it will be fine.

Maybe break the "factory seal" on the centreboard case, so that you can get into it easily, should that be needed?
There are other posts about jiggling the up/downhaul on the centreboard,  so as to free it off when occasionally stuck.
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General Discussion / Re: Baycruiser 23 Engine ...and headroom
« Last Post by Sea Simon on 20 May 2024, 21:57 »
My BC 1001, as it's now known, has standing headroom at a MAX of about 5ft. Sitting headroom throughout. 
At a height of 5ft 8, so far it's Normally worked for me...but a couple of unplanned captive "wet weekends" on board were  perhaps at my limit? A transparent  acrylic washboard really helps tho, physiologically,  if not added head room  ;)

As Matt said, he's  sold a lot more boats with the added headroom...prettier...or (definitely not,  imho) not! As I've  said on here before, I can live with the lack of headroom due, at least in part, to the glow/pride that I get as I approach the boat on the water.

I'd have one of the proposed new BC 32's in a heartbeat...looks/layout very much like my BC 26, but with standing headroom.

Sounds to me like a BC 23, either inboard or outboard, would probably suit you very well?

What we haven't  discussed, is the sparking sailing performance of these boats. All of which, imho, are leagues ahead of the Drascombes, crabbers etc alternatives.

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Technical / Re: BRe gel coat repairs
« Last Post by Nicky R on 20 May 2024, 21:12 »
The difficulty is that the gel coat will have changed colour with exposure to uv. Mark just did a small gel coat repair to Sulis, and despite being kept undercover for the last two years, the colour had changed so the patch is noticeable. When we had Grace (our BRE) we took her to a specialist to make good a couple of places. They were able to match the colour perfectly (to my eyes).

So in summary, if you want not to see the repair, take it to someone who specialises. If you’re not so worried, I’m sure the filler kit is fine!
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General Discussion / Drying moorings
« Last Post by trailing by on 20 May 2024, 12:35 »
I wonder if anyone with a BC23 has a drying mooring and has any advice to offer.  I have only had full swinging moorings before or marina berths so having the boat dry out around every LW is new to me.  Are there any issues with the copper coat or with the keel getting stuck or anything else that I haven't even considered?
The mooring I am being offered is soft mud on the bottom and will dry for around an hour or so either side of LW.
Thanks in advance.
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Technical / Re: BRe gel coat repairs
« Last Post by TheOldDuffer on 20 May 2024, 11:09 »
Tcave

I am no expert on fiberglass, prefering wood. But - needs must and now taht I have a grp BR20 I have attempted to repair scatches in the gel coat. To get the right colour I suggest you contact Swallow and ask as this is critical. Thereafter I guess it depends on the type of damage - chips / scratches or stress cracks. If you buy a decent repair kit it will come with everything you need and clear instructions. Esentiallly it is a matter of roughing out the damaged area and then filling in with reson first is its deep, follwed by gel coat as a second operation. My kit came with bits of clear polythene? to cover repairs on vertical surfaces to deter running / sagging. After it has cured then rubbing down with progressivelyt finer grades of wet and dry to final polishing.

Good luck!

Gareth Rowlands
GRP BR20 Halen Y Mor

Standard repair gel coat filler is whiter than the BRe. You could ask Swallow for a sample but the hulls are molded in Poland?
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Technical / Luff reefing lines
« Last Post by TheOldDuffer on 20 May 2024, 10:36 »
On one outing last season my luff reefing lines got tangled such that I disconnected them just to get the sail up and start sailing. Now I can’t remember how they go back. I have the though the jam cleat and block and through the holes in the sail, but where are they anchored?

On another note, how do you keep the aft reefing lines out of the way when using the stack pack?
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