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johnguy:
Thank you all for helpful suggestions. Here is my offering. Milford Haven is a great sailing area and there are at least five pubs/cafes with pontoons where you can moor while you lunch and perfume your nose in comfort. From seaward moving up the Haven they are Griffin Inn or Cocos at Dale Yacht Club, Dale, Ferry House Inn at Hazelbeach, Jolly Sailor at Burton, Lawrenny Arms at Lawrenny and the Creselly Arms, Creswell Quay (need to be very tide aware for this one and they don’t serve food but it is a lovely creek crawl).  Good sheltered launch ramp and friendly marina at Milford Haven, nice marina but exposed ramp at Neyland, sheltered ramp at Lawrenny Quay, also visitor moorings and a caravan park.

Willie The Rut Lander:
Johnguy's initial question is pretty fundamental to my attitude to BRe sailing (pub and safe overnight mooring) and the subsequent enthusiastic responses show we are not alone! However, I can't help think that there is a smarter way than this forum to record the findings; perhaps something along the lines of boatlaunch.co.uk where we drop a pin on a map and make comments about beer, food, tides, ground state (is that the right term?) etc. I fear it may not be feasible within this forum (no map facility?) but I'd be slightly hesitant to open it to the wider world for fear it may grow many heads. It could, alternatively, become a great source of info not available in Almanacs etc.
To add to the pubs already mentioned, may I add the FBI at Dittisham and two I haven't visited, The Maltster's Arms, (upstream of Dittisham and Keith Floyd's old pub) plus The Old Plough at Bere Ferrers on the Tavy (off The Tamar).

Sea Simon:
As one who has been "lucky" enough to live in (what was, certainly until post COVID) a "Hidden Gem" for the past 35 years, I've modified my above post as we REALLY do not need any more publicity hereabouts.
I dread this advice ending up in some sort of "guide". There already plenty of people publicising "Hidden gems" online, all too often to exploit beautifully quiet unspoilt areas for personal gain.

A problem that friends in W Scotland, Scilly and the Lakes tell me is not unique to rural Cornwall.

We were lucky enough to have "free" parking, water access/slipways etc. That has had to change since the "users" overran us, and having parked for days (sometimes weeks at a time) in the limited parking available (often leaving camper vans and large 4x4s obstructing lanes and slipways. On return, they then use the "free" water supply to wash everything  down before depositing their rubbish for us villagers to remove.
Carparks and slipways do not materialise out of thin air,  and must be maintained. The two slipways here are maintained by local volunteers, not "The Council". We rarely see more than £100 out of the honesty box for a full seasons use by hundreds of users.
Rubbish disposal  and water supplies must be paid for, by someone.

Now we have queues for water launching access, ANPR cameras for £££ parking, locked water taps. Constantly overflowing rubbish bins have been removed, A neighbour has had to start locking his wheelie bin closed as it's  filled with others picnic/boat waste! Even Anchoring is chargeable, and you will be hunted down by the harbour patrol.

And then there is also the damaging effects large numbers of people, and water traffic has on wildlife. We've seen dolphins, porpoises, otters, seal and Ospreys in the river in recent years. Rarer now...

I'm sure members here, and on similar boating forums, don't behave I this way.

Cheap, indestructible Plastic kayaks were the start of our problems, £150 SUPs from Lidl perhaps the "final straw"?
Recent trends include playing loud music while boating, usually from overpowered  RHIBS but these last seasons I've witnessed boom boxes on SUPs,  in what were once quiet parts of the AONB...yes really!

Willie The Rut Lander:
Simon - I can feel the rage coming through your every word and concur with it all. Maybe we should just have our own Swallow pilot? As a fairly serious sea kayaker I've seen the democratisation of kayaking (and SUPs) and, as you suggest, it's pretty ugly.
On one of my first passages in my BRe this summer, I moored alongside at Wareham, which was so peaceful during the day but at night was full of powerboats with crew who knew absolutely zero about mooring - they just sat there as the skipper threw over a single fender and some bits of mooring string. I subsequently found a hole in the gelcoat of my BRe that matched the exact shape of a stinky's prop - what a coincidence! The only thing missing was a Bully XL!
Oh, I just got that off my chest!
PS - The latest edition of the DCA journal landed on my front doormat today; now that's something the SUPers will never read. Perhaps we should stick to that?

johnguy:
Don't worry Simon, I'm not going to write a guide or build a web site, and I do appreciate your tips. I always enjoy your contributions here. I have a week in Mylor planned next year. It is my fourth time there and we love it and we will try to visit a couple of new places this time thanks to advice I've had here and in FB groups. Also sailed Tamar/Plymouth a few times, and may do another trip next year if I can winnow the advice to find the sort of things we like to do. I hope my tips will encourage a few people to try Milford Haven. It is certainly not over crowded.

I think SUPs are barmy, but then after a lifetime in the merchant navy, royal navy and fifty-five years of sailing, what would I know? It's good that people get on the water, however they do it, I try and tell myself.

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