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Mrs Chippy

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Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« on: 21 Oct 2012, 02:51 »
Is there any interest in developing a burgee or pennant for the Swallow Boats Association or are folks generally more wedded to club pennants or are members more indvidualist types who want to fly their own flags?
I would be keen to hear other members thoughts on the issue .......

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #1 on: 21 Oct 2012, 13:45 »
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I would be keen to hear other members thoughts on the issue .......
: No, thanks.  C.
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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #2 on: 21 Oct 2012, 14:20 »
Mrs Chippy (Great name)

Nice to see new members taking part in the forum, i would be proud to fly a Swallow Boats association pennant on my boat.

Can't see any harm in that, any ideas on design so far.

A competition perhaps to design the pennant open to young relatives with a prize for the winner.

Lovely idea

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #3 on: 21 Oct 2012, 21:46 »
There's some ready-made artwork in the photo attached to this post http://www.swallowyachtsassociation.org/smf/index.php/topic,624.msg3807.html#msg3807
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Mrs Chippy

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant (plus pigsticks)
« Reply #4 on: 21 Oct 2012, 22:29 »
I am asking because I am keen to install a pigstick (or pennant staff) on our new BR17 - which means a decision about what flag to fly.
If there is no real appetite that's fine - I can choose my own design.
If there is an appetite I guess a competition would be the way to go.
We are currently members of the Catboat Association which has a single burgee for the multitude of catboat owning members. This identifies us around the world as association members (not that there are many in New Zealand!)
See catboat assn burgee below - it represents the white gaff rigged sail of a catboat against the blue sky.
More importantly I find the pigstick an easy, nice looking and invaluable way of knowing what the wind is up to. It just runs up the mast on a flag halyard in an endless loop running through a sheave at the top of the mast. The flag is on a swivel system that alllows it to go 360 degrees around the staff.
I was thinking of one on the mizzen mast of the Bayraider.

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #5 on: 22 Oct 2012, 21:48 »
I have not got anything useful to add to the discussion just that I approve of the idea and would certainly fly a Swallow boats burgee (assuming the design was OK) to add some colour to my BR20 and not least (as Mrs Chippy has mentioned) to provide additional info on wind direction/strength.

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #6 on: 23 Oct 2012, 09:42 »
If you want a logo for a pennant, there is an "official" swallowboats sail mark now, certainly it was put on my sail, of not surprisingly, a swallow. Not a great shape for a small triangular flag though
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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #7 on: 27 Oct 2012, 09:32 »
Agree about the design not being great on a small triangular flag. Maybe I will just choose a design/colour that works for us.

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #8 on: 27 Oct 2012, 11:36 »
How about the attached rough artist's impression?
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Peter Taylor

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #9 on: 27 Oct 2012, 14:31 »
Haven't I seen that pennant before somewhere?!
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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #10 on: 29 Oct 2012, 16:07 »
I propose having 20 burgees made, more or less to the attached design.  I've chosen this colour because it matches the colour of the swallow's belly and shows the swallow design up better than bright red, say.

The best quote is for single sided printed knitted polyester, roped and toggled, 35cm long, £8.50 each including VAT.  Double sided would be £13.75 each.

Any strong preferences one way or the other?

If I press the button, we'll have to work out a way of getting the money in to me and the postage out.  Easy for the UK, less so for overseas.
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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #11 on: 29 Oct 2012, 16:31 »
I propose having 20 burgees made, more or less to the attached design.  I've chosen this colour because it matches the colour of the swallow's belly and shows the swallow design up better than bright red, say.

The best quote is for single sided printed knitted polyester, roped and toggled, 35cm long, £8.50 each including VAT.  Double sided would be £13.75 each.

Any strong preferences one way or the other?

If I press the button, we'll have to work out a way of getting the money in to me and the postage out.  Easy for the UK, less so for overseas.

Put me down for one Graham, single or double whatever you order

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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #12 on: 29 Oct 2012, 18:45 »
I'd like one please Graham but would prefer to invest in double sided  - after all for quite some time it'll be the only bit of the boat I'll have! However I'll go with single sided if that proves to be the general preference. (I'm in the UK - Southampton - so can send cheque)
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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #13 on: 30 Oct 2012, 00:01 »
Hi, Graham.

Please.
Not beige!
Surely ANYTHING but beige!!     


PS Is that swallow design out of  copyright?


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Re: Swallow boats burgee or pennant
« Reply #14 on: 30 Oct 2012, 08:09 »
Tony,

Beige has connotations.  I prefer to call this one, which is warmer, off white.  It is supposed to match http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barn_Swallow_800.jpg

I got the artwork off Charlotte at SB.
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